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So, Does “Indie” Really Mean Anything Anymore?

LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, COMPULSIVE BLOGGERS WHO DON'T KNOW WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE OR WHY WHO WOULD LIKE ENVY TO REMAIN RATHER DULL BECAUSE THEY, PERSONALLY HAVE NEVER GAINED ANY PROFESSIONAL SKILLS AT…Continue

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The Cassandra Effect by Marques De Valia

say yes or oui or si if you understand, comprende or "get it"

but forms of rape psychic or physical

are no joke and are to be

discussed. exposed, rejected

and our friends protected from

precisely that form or dominant energy.

it's not lovemaking or a form of friendship

to impersonally force your energy on to others

and it's never uncool to be honest about these forms

of physical, spiritual and psychical rape.

so wake up and don't be ashamed

to be conscious, and to desire

to own YOUR OWN BODY AND SOUL.

SHOW WHAT YOU KNOW

I HAVE MADE A COMMITMENT.

So, Does “Indie” Really Mean Anything Anymore?

“Indie cred” used to stand for something. It meant selling 7-inches at local record stores, not paying radio stations for spins, and not watering things down for mainstream acceptance. But these days, everyone has direct access to the fan, major labels are weaker than ever, and traditional endpoints like terrestrial radio are losing influence.

Meanwhile, the worlds of indie and major seem increasingly blurred. So-called indie bands are often upstreamed into the major label world (for example, Interpol onto Capitol), and so-called “indie distributors” like RED are often owned by majors (in this case, Sony Music Entertainment).

So, what does “indie” really mean anymore? And, is it dead? That was the smart question asked by Paste writer Nick Purdy, who chatted with A2IM chief Rich Bengloff on the matter. Bengloff pointed to continued access issues involving traditional brick-n-mortar retailers and radio stations, offering a reminder that old-school formats still wield considerable influence. But Bengloff is stumping for many of the same issues as the RIAA, including anti-piracy objectives (A2IM supports ‘graduated response’); demands for recording royalties from terrestrial radio plays, and even DMCA-related concerns (A2IM is working to appeal the outcome of Veoh v. UMG).

So what is the difference then? In the digital sphere, Bengloff also pointed to issues getting exposure on platforms like the iTunes Store. But anyone can upload and chart on iTunes these days, and an artist website is a dedicated showcase and retailer unto itself. In that light, is the term “indie” just another relic of a not-too-distant past? It’s a question worth asking…


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one opinion is that dam RIGHT it's dead.

not only is it dead, it was fallen upon and killed by minds that feared its potential for liberation.

a jaded and unimaginative mind might see the words "potential for liberation" and think: corny, unnecessary,


they aggressively jumped on Indie and co-opted it to make it into a generic form of the mainstream, IMMEDIATELY.


things like that happened over and over again in the 20th century.  Green Day is an example:  people who never really experienced underground avant-punk might wonder why someone might suggest that Green Day are only punk in APPEARANCE, that they are a weak, superficial imitation of what anarcho-punk was, or "poseurs."

from wikipedia: 

The English term poseur is a loanword from French, in which it is used figuratively since the mid-19th century with the same meaning as in English [2] to refer to people who "affect an attitude or pose". Etymonline, an online etymology dictionary, argues that since the "word is Eng.[English] poser in Fr.[French] garb", thus it "could itself be considered an affectation."[3]

Dictionary.com says the word refers to "a person who habitually pretends to be something he is not."[1] The Merriam-Webster dictionary notes that the term was also used to refer to a "person who pretends to be what he or she is not" or an "insincere person".[4] The Encarta dictionary states that the term is used to describe a "pretentious person" or "somebody who tries to impress others by behaving in an affected way".[5] The Cambridge Dictionary defines a "poseur" as "someone who pretends to be something they are not, or to have qualities that they do not have."[6]

Many individuals misspell the word as poser, which by Merriam-Webster's definition is either "a puzzling or baffling question" or "a person who poses" as if for a portrait.

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but of course: actors and models "pose" and "pretend to be something that they are in fact, not."  it would be easy to miss the INTENTION.  THAT'S NOT WHAT IS MEANT,

what is meant is terms of insincerity, fakeness -- not creating art by stance or by imagination.  

it would be simple to miss the intention of description on purpose out of cunning,

there is often a sort of cunning that seeks to undermine the sincere efforts of others, the more sincere and heart felt, the greater the...envy...

ha, ha!

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in terms of indie-ness:  

the term was recently used to describe films at the Sundance film festival featuring, among others, George Clooney and Richard Gere. 

it makes sense to point out that indie filmmakers are gonna be all different...but...

there is a mentality that fears independent artists.  "you work too hard, you're gonna raise the bar for the rest of us. we got a steady mediocrity thing going on here."  

up they jump to enforce their ideas of the mainstream mass-market, and to 'own the moment' sort of forcefully.

oh, yeah, thy are SO indie. so.  riiiight.

that they fear things coming from an avant-region is something that they would never admit.

in a time when there is great repressiveness that borders on fascism (and some would say, crosses the line,) there might not be a lot of discernment. 

where is everybody?

where are the meaningful conversations?

perhaps not necessary. this is not the time for 'figuring things out," or "getting deep." 

WHY CAN'T PEOPLE JUST GET OVER IT? indie fashion? oh, it's a way to make money. we're gonna be rich.

  • if there weren't a potential for there to be a lot of money in it, why would you DO it?
  • money talks and bull$#!+ walks...

what it meant in 1996 was sneered at and hated by corporate capitalist mentality.

when the sincerity of the trend caught on, that corporate caputalist (sic)mentality

feared what it did not own or rule as it always has

and rushed in to start seducing it, co-opting it, and thusly WEAKENING it

and this worked.

in a time when people don't want to be politically correct-- don't understand that Wall Street was a cautionary tale and that Greed is EVIL, not Good -- the impetus for indie ideas of anything at all was shouted down by the minds that come from that place where capitalism and fascism overlap...

indie dullness and aping the mainstream might go on for a long time.

statistically, not much is happening...

maybe it is for the best, for now.  maybe in 2013 or beyond

different things will happen, 

people will realise the value in being indie and remaining fiercely indie,

rather than derisively sneering and hating the devoted out of

envy...

Punk is dead.


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Death

On June 22, 2006, Huffington Post blogger Paul Krassner reported that Robert Anton Wilson was under hospice care at home with friends and family.[34] On October 2, 2006 Douglas Rushkoff reported that Wilson was in severe financial trouble.[35] SlashdotBoing Boing, and the Church of the SubGenius also picked up on the story, linking to Rushkoff's appeal.

 As his webpage reported on October 10, these efforts succeeded beyond expectation and raised a sum which would have supported him for at least six months. Obviously touched by the great outpouring of support, on October 5, 2006, Wilson left the following comment on his personal website, expressing his gratitude:

Dear Friends, my God, what can I say. I am dumbfounded, flabbergasted, and totally stunned by the charity and compassion that has poured in here the last three days.

To steal from Jack Benny, "I do not deserve this, but I also have severe leg problems and I don't deserve them either."

Because he was a kind man as well as a funny one, Benny was beloved. I find it hard to believe that I am equally beloved and especially that I deserve such love.

Whoever you are, wherever you are, know that my love is with you.

You have all reminded me that despite George W. Bush and all his cohorts, there is still a lot of beautiful kindness in the world.

Blessings,

Robert Anton Wilson

On January 6, Wilson wrote on his blog that according to several medical authorities, he would likely only have between two days and two months left to live.[39] He closed this message with "I look forward without dogmatic optimism but without dread. I love you all and I deeply implore you to keep the lasagna flying. Please pardon my levity, I don't see how to take death seriously. It seems absurd." He died peacefully five days later, on January 11 at 4:50 a.m. Pacific time.

 After his cremation on January 18, and his family-held memorial service on February 18, 2007, his family scattered most of his ashes at the same spot as his wife's - off the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk in Santa Cruz, California.

A tribute show to Wilson, organized by Coldcut and Mixmaster Morris and performed in London as a part of the "Ether 07 Festival" held at the Queen Elizabeth Hall on March 18, 2007, also included Ken CampbellBill Drummond and Alan Moore.[43]

 


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...i don't know what YOU learned.  how could i.  pfft.

 

I have learned that:  in Newspapering, everything in "Features" is expendable.  EXCEPT astrology.  why?

why such power for a popular pseudoscience?  hmm????

 

 

The Cassandra Effect, November, 2011

Criticism:

  • Huffington Post
  • National Public Radio
  • MSNBC's Morning Joe

 

 

 

 

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Damn, did i get sick of THAT bullshit quick.

i am celebrating a slight ghostly breeze as Johnny Depp, the celebrated actor and one time member of the Winona Forever fan club, brings the novel that Hunter S. Thompson wrote to the Bigger Screen...i'm celebrating because HST and Depp were actually friends and allies, compatriots one might say, and therefore it'll probably be a fair document of HST's novel.

 

Hunter was the original Gonzo journalist, going over the top to get into stories and report them.  Drugs, alcohol, too much, he lived like a cancer, devouring and destroying and inciting fear and loathing at the mention that he and the Freaks who associated with him were showing upto Aspen, Boulder, Denver, Las Vegas...

wherever fine drugs were sold!  

his was a writers' approach that was not mediocre, at all, for all his debauch and self destruction he went for it and produced great wit in an American style...he could be compared to Mark Twain as far as being a cultural standout.

 

i am only so excited about Depp's movie, I won't see it until I read the book.  But I might get to read it this week.

 

What Hunter was -- a Journalist -- matters because he wrote for Rolling Stone.

 

if you have a refrigerator that teeter tottlers a bit and you need a thing, you know, to shim it up, Rolling Stoneis useful.  Spin will work too.  But if you want to read something challenging and feel entertained and informed when you put it down, be sure to use Rolling Stone whenever someone spills beer or pukes.

 

It is not absorbent enough, being glossy to deal effectively with stinking diarrhea....

 

 

I got so damn tired of Arianna Huffington's snotty "you can't say that probably" censorship standards at her online rag.   GOD! was i jonesing for an intelligent and nongeek place to have social intercourse with other netizens, to discuss the depth and meaning of events in the burgeoning cyberculture as well asthe exploding outside world of offline work, life and experiences?!

 

...

 

Hell no, wasn't finding it.  

 

Geeks with their social retardation.

Bush-sucking DOLTS with their Party-of-No! anti-intellectualism.

 

But that being said, my search had been a long one, spanning about ten years.

I was involved with one of the first cybercafes to happen in the United States in 1990- long before the internet was presented for the curious world to share and get perspectives on itself.  So until 1999, my approach to computers was on the inside.

I got geeks out of my system in the 1990s, is what I am saying, I grew bored with the grinding superficiality of people who try to turn an ephitet of hatred into a badge intimating some sort of social "eliteness".  they were always a let down...and there were every day more evidences that the world was evolving directly because of the new burgeoning cyberculture...

 

 

 

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every time i saw that obnoxious "you were warned" from Huffpo, I took a deep breath and reminded myself that I like Mrs. Huffington. I don't know her, but I like the way that she comes off in interviews. She seems nice. Nicer than a lot of that one percent of the very rich and influential, and it seems reflected with difficulty at her Post.

 

But still, when I saw THIS:

 

1 second ago (3:05 AM)

 

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my middle finger would twitch.  

 

 

so what could i do?  that's her 'node, staffed by her geeks, her well paid compulsives and their prejudices.  I have dreaming to do!  How the hell am i to wait to see if i am throwing krugerrands into a fountain -- or participating in open and free discussions?

 




The Huffington Post

 

It's Arianna's right not to pay squatters to squat her foundation. She set it up, she dealt with unwieldy, hated America Online, a/s/l-holes that they are -- people who want to take and take as a reward for being compulsive and robotic deserve very little, in my opinion.


I'm not a blogger at ALL so that doesn't matter much to me.   I'm a writer.I've NEVER liked that igly litle word -- and one of the worst aspects of that style of writing is that it invites compulsiveness.  Mix compulsiveness with greed and the result can easily be unentertaining writing that just goes on and on, and The Point?   HA!

 

No deadlines.  Just hands out greedy for cash, or people with their mouths openwaiting for snowflakes to fall in...

 

 

It's not writing.

 

 

 

A recent Daily Show puyndit stated that print media were dying, and I realised sudenly: if print media are dying, they are not dying because of the advent of advanced computing, the internet and cyberspace -- they are dying because of uninspired dull writing.

 

In particular in the case of newspapers:  uninspired journalisim that lacks  INTEGRITY is just not a turn on.  Why drop a buck for all that wood pulp?  You can skim blogs!

 

It's Arianna's right not to pay squatters to squat her foundation. She set it up, she dealt with unwieldy, hated America Online, a/s/l-holes that they are -- people who want to take and take as a reward for being compulsive and robotic deserve very little, in my opinion.

 

 

so i intuited that if i felt like wasting my time, i would go on contributing and interacting there WITHOUT saving my, uh, "Work"...

 

these are all things that may or may not have made it up to Huffpo....

 

i'm huffin' at huffpo.Marques De Valia

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the "States' Rights" that Perry is in favor of is a code referring to the time between the beginning of the Civil War and the Civil Rights movement of the late 1960s.

hold your nose, nurse, and think of the context that connects the word "civil" in both situations

...that's the real Rick Perry, sure as he started his campaign in a state known for Ku Klux Klan activity on purpose. To defeat the Obama Administra­tion, Perry wants to attract the white supremacis­t and white racist voters out of hiding...p­eople who don't like this still need to think about it -- because such ignorance thrives from people being too revulsed to gain an understand­ing.
For H'ween this year I plan to be a Democratic Strategist­...so I have to buy a necktie...­but the sort of neckties that the K. K. K. provide for people of my complexion­, I DON'T need.
another central dispute over states' rights moved to the forefront. The issue of slavery polarized the union, with the Jeffersoni­an principles often being used by both sides—anti­-slavery Northerner­s, and Southern slaveholde­rs and secessioni­sts—in debates that ultimately led to the American Civil War. Supporters of slavery often argued that one of the rights of the states was the protection of slave property wherever it went, a position endorsed by the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1857 Dred Scott decision.


Bob, optimism is rarely if ever a substitute for understand­ing the cable ratings process...­if we were talking about NONcable television­, you might be guessing right.
But it's counter intuitive to suppose that people who depend on political contributi­ons are affected by viewership­.

For example: RM's labelmate Andrea Greenspan (Mitchell)­?

Since she is WTO/CFR it doesn't matter if twelve people tune in a MONTH: she's a well connected WallSt/Was­hington insider. (Her husband, Alan Greenspan, is a GQ Model Millionare­.)

See what I mean? As long as RM continues to greenlight the frackers, Big Pharma and other sponsors that show up to make her look like a hypocrite between her comedy bits -- HA! --
she has absolutely no risk of having to worry too much about the "ratings."

Also one has to look at what comes on at the same time. And since she is on twice a night, they have licked that. It's about what N. P. R. calls Underwriti­ng, what non-cable stations call "Sponsored by..." and what Congress and the Senate call Earmarks: Big Money.

A sincere crusader journalist would of course not work for a network that did those things.
Wouldn't, won't, goes back to indiepubli­c where twelve people would be MORE.


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2 hours ago (1:22 PM)

since General Electric and Exxon/Mobi­l are two of Microsoft/­National Broadcasti­ng Company's sponsors --

AND because they, like Rick Parry and George Dubya Bush are The Utilities Lobby,
well, yeah, RM has to go all out to look like a journalist­. Otherwise she would be accused of being a pandering propagandi­st by people who prefer Arianna Huffington­! Yeah, maybe.

Not everyone likes Rachel Maddow. Because...­well, see Bill Gates+pie in face...

ugh.

 

 

10.26 photo

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yeah. end this socialist farce,
this waste that didn't work in the 1960s
organized by pro-maoist adbusters and NERDS? put them
out of the way and let the RATIONAL ANARCHISTS have a go.
i know those crusty 'tards. they are. it is all true.

and Marx and Engels had NO LOVE FOR THE UNITED STATES or freedom!
how many communists and socialists do you think are out there,
doing drugs. how many date rapes have taken place? the legitimate media...
they can't get in. and TRUST ME independen­t media? we can barely get bandwidth.
we definitely are NOT represente­d by dangerous criminal a. nonny. mouse or GEEKS.

throw them in jail?
sedition is a crime punishable by WHAT, exactly, any real friends i have here?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

10.24:

 

yes, except Anonymous are insincere, venal and also GEEKS.

this means that as attempted anarchists trying to function, ALL they will do is give people a false sense of hope. you and me... KNOW that anyone who thinks that they are some sort of Heroes -- greater than Cops, firemen or Mom has their head up a dark, tight, stinking place where there is no free lunch. and no basic cable except Colbert...

they just want attention.­..geeks are not geniuses, ever. they are angry, bitter nerds. they will do what? lead to people thinking "well, don't worry, Anonymous will stop those nasty secret societies that control and manipulate the world." oh, yeah, right and Tinker Bell will come back of course, if everyone in the audience would just BELIEVE, FOR FIVE MINUTES, THAT SANDY DUNCAN IS A LITTLE BOY.

they are charlaitai­ns.

it is a crime of the mind, really -- because they are doing illegal things and pretending to be superheroe­s. which makes them Criminal geeks who should be busted for flagrantly violating laws. fortunatel­y they DO get busted.

also they don't advertise but they write virii that make YOUR computer experience­, maybe, SUCK. with the same "i'll make them suffer for laughing at my pocket protector" attitude. No Jobs in the bunch.

(see my buddy Brad over there?  HE HAS THIS WHOLE FUCKING LIFE, SEE, HE'S NOT A FUCKING NERD. HE PLAYS ONE ON TEEVEE.)

 

okay, anyway...

 

why they call it "huffington"

POLICE PEPPER SPRAY HAKA DANCERS AT FOOTBALL GAME IN UTAH

TO THE PAIUTES, THIS IS NO SURPRISE. YOU KNOW, THE LAST OF THE ACTUAL CHRISTIANS WAS PUT TO DEATH BY NERO CIRCA 60 A. D.

AS A RENOUNCED MONOTHEIST SCHOLAR CAN TELL YOU, THE REPLACEMEN­TS WERE PHILOSOPHI­CALLY "HIS" ENEMIES, THE PHARAISEES­, WHO "ARE PROUD OF THEIR ASCERTAINM­ENT OF THE LETTER OF THE LAW, BUT DESPISE THE SPIRIT OF IT WHEN IT APPEARS."

OF COURSE THIS IS NEWS. BACK DATE IT TO ABOUT 1492 AND YOU SEE THE A. WHITNEY BROWN OF IT...LIKE THE KIDS USED TO SAY, THEY AIN'T REALLY CHRISTIAN, THEY WAS JUST SAYIN' THAT.

  • WONDER HOW IT WAS IN NZ FOR PEOPLE WHO DO THAT DANCE, OR ANY DRUMMING AND DANCING CULTURE.
  • WONDER IF IT'S HOT IN HELL WITH HITLER.

 

10.22

“all this hatred for Israel and semites in general.
Hitler would be very pleased, as would those who followed his dictates and policy.

it's amazing to see how many people seem able to TYPE in their SLEEP!”

 

“that's just DENIAL. of COURSE there is such thing as the people
of a disputed region. of course. palestinia­ns are as real as your denial.

a touch more.”

 

 

Take THAT, Dubya: Dept:
"just to say: Bush didn't destroy it. he weakened it, created legislatio­n that made it very suck, BUT IT'S NOT DESTROYED YET. still here. but i know what you mean, and well, how are he and his father still at large?
it will take real courage and intelligen­ce for people to look at the facts of the Bush organizati­on and force them to accept justice...­more than just going to a tattoo parlor (which is all challengin­g cops to be brutal is...that'­s not really brave.)
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i'm addicted to huffin.
huffington post i mean.
SHOULD I SEEK HELP...that;s what i am wondering.
rock on you crazee rabbits
I AM HERE TO END THE POINTLESS DISCRIMINATION AGAINST HIPSTERS.  I'VE BEEN CALLED A HIPSTER FOR MANY YEARS, AND IT WAS FROM SOMEONE WHO REALLY KNOWS WHAT IT MEANS.
http://media.victoriassecret.com/product/prodpri2/V311330_SPLIT_1_CROP1.jpg
I WILL NEVER SEE THAT PARTICULAR VICTORIA'S SECRET CATALOGUE ADDICT AGAIN - BUT AT LEAST I KNEW SHE WAS REALLY COMING FROM
THE HEART
OR SOMETHING.
YEAH, I'M A HIPSTER.  i wipe my ass and i pay my bills, is all.
come to think about it -- forget all OTHER hipsters.
they are out there in nyc and they haven't carefully washed between their legs in weeks.  that can't really reform our troubled federal system, now, can it?
II MEAN IT
CUT IT OUT YOU GUYS
CLEARLY HIPSTERS ROCK.
ALSO
STOP DISSING MY DYKE SISTERS BECAUSE
A LOT OF DUDES ARE PIGS AND DON'T DESERVE IT.
http://blog.bevello.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/vspinkhipsters2-300x183.jpgwhat is WITH YOU PEOPLE?  WHY ARE YOU SO AGAINST HIPSTERS?
I'M A HIPSTER AND YEAH,
I LIKE MY POSITION IN LIFE.
NO PRETENSES. MUSIC, SOME COFFEE, I'M,
SO GOOD TO GO.
NO MORE BASHING HIPSTERS.
I MEAN, well, yeah,
i am kind of clean.
http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/b/0/0/41/7/AAAAC2F5Bg4AAAAAAEF4KQ.jpg?v=1239173213000hiHIPSTERS ARE
SMART, SNAZZY AND ALWAYS GIVE A LOVING HUG. COME ON!
you know you like them.

October 17 1968 JOAN BAEZ gets arrested with 120+ others for doing the same stuff. so is nothing supposed to change -- and then in forty years the same dumbness again, just another ring in the tree trunk?

all this stuff happened with people like JOAN BAEZ, LENNY BRUCE, DICK GREGORY...­and forty years later to the day -- same elite military industrial system.

the one main difference is this glorious shiney internet. let that be the big lever to catapult some of these muckety.co­m starlings into real prison and out of power....

 

 

It got WORSE and more wheedling and egregious at the network once devoted to "the people" and now underwritten by blatant corporate criminals.

 

By their cyber-attitude I felt immediately RAPED and DEMEANED:

Generation X Divided Over 2012 Candidates

 

"Thank you for your comment. Please note we review some user comments to ensure they meet the NPR.org community rules. For more information about this process, please read our explanation on how moderation works.

NPR reserves the right to read on the air and/or publish on its website or in any medium now known or unknown the e-mails and letters that we receive. 

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So if I say something that their editorial staff deems relevant, they reserve the right to use that on air to make THEIR thing look more hip, and NOT PAY ME for being a writer. 

 

And ALSO to maintain their policies so that I can NOT GET PAID for my WORK as a writer, blocking me out with their--

 

!!^&%##$!!

 

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BUT I HAD BEEN READY FOR NPR'S DEGRADED BULLSHIT FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.  

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when bill clinton was president:

war was waged against somali warlords:  because the president was distracted and under heavy fire.

many believe that m. lewinsky was paid and encouraged to "fall in love" with pres. clinton.   when the morality sting w. kenneth starr and co. began -- suddenly there was a clumsy and ill thought failure of a police action in somalia.

 

the somali warlords had home-field advantage.  some of the warlords who repelled United States Rangers might still be alive.

 

in 2011

in Afghanistan United States military personnel ended the lives of more civilians than at any point in that conflict to date. (but in Africa and West Asia there is a TRADITION of the United States, UK and Imperialist Europe in general treating civilians as if their lives had no value. this CREATES situations like Somali Warlords and the Taliban,

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eventually, if certain propaganda arms are allowed to continue to create a misinformed culture (the goal of all propaganda) -- this will cause tumult and upheaval in the continental United States on the scale of revolution.

 

revolutions take place because the people are disgusted with the government.  and there are few sorts of rage more profound as the rage of a populace and constituency who gradually realize that they have been defrauded...

 

 

i wonder if this link still works?

 

http://cointelpro.info/

At 3:17pm on June 25, 2010, Marques De ValiaMarques De Valia said…

coming soon.
 
 
 

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